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MN-117 29-Aug-07 Preliminary transcript
BV: Ok, let’s start with The Great Forty.
MN: 1. THUS HAVE I HEARD. On one occasion the Blessed One was living at
Sāvatthi in Jeta's Grove, Anāthapiṇḍika's Park. There he addressed the
bhikkhus thus: "Bhikkhus."—"Venerable sir," they replied. The Blessed One
said this:
2. "Bhikkhus, I shall teach you noble right concentration with its
supports and its requisites. Listen and attend closely to what I shall
say."—"Yes, venerable sir," the bhikkhus replied. The Blessed One said this:
3. "What, bhikkhus, is noble right concentration with its supports and
its requisites, that is, right view, right intention, right speech, right
action, right livelihood, right effort, and right mindfulness? Unification
of mind equipped with these seven factors is called noble right
concentration with its supports and its requisites.
BV: Now this is the eight fold path. Always the defin, definition of what
they call right concentration, that we call harmonious collectedness, is
always, always, first jhana, second jhana, third jhana, fourth jhana. Fourth
jhana includes the arupa jhanas. So that means eight jhanas. When people are
practicing straight vipassana, they get to what they call neighborhood
concentration, which is a form of one-pointed concentration. We don’t have
that in the samatha vipassana meditation. And they say that that is the same
thing as, the definition giving it, given in the suttas. That it is the
first jhana, second jhana, third jhana, fourth jhana, and it’s not. It’s not
even jhana. So, the whole, whole point of the way that the practice is being
taught right now, means that it’s a seven fold path, that they’re following,
not an eight fold path. Because it’s, by the definition it just doesn’t add
up. Doesn’t, doesn’t work.
MN: (VIEW)
4. "Therein, bhikkhus, right view comes first. And how does right view
come first? One understands wrong view as wrong view and right view as right
view: this is one's right view.
5. "And what, bhikkhus, is wrong view? 'There is nothing given, nothing
offered, nothing sacrificed; no fruit or result of good and bad actions; no
this world, no other world; no mother, no father; no beings who are reborn
spontaneously; no good and virtuous recluses and brahmins in the world who
have realised for themselves by direct knowledge and declare this world and
the other world.' This is wrong view.
6. "And what, bhikkhus, is right view? Right view, I say, is twofold:
there is right view that is affected by taints, partaking of merit, ripening
in the acquisitions; and there is right view that is noble, taintless,
supramundane, a factor of the path.
7. "And what, bhikkhus, is right view that is affected by the taints,
partaking of merit, ripening in the acquisitions? There is what is given and
what is offered and what is sacrificed; there is fruit and result of good
and bad actions; there is this world and the other world; there is mother
and father; there are beings who are reborn spontaneously; there are in the
world good and virtuous recluses and brahmins who have realised for
themselves by direct knowledge and declare this world and the other world.'
This is right view affected by taints, partaking of merit, ripening in the
acquisitions.
S: ~
BV: Acquiring.
S: ~
BV: Gaining benefit. Yeah. Gaining benefit. For the acquisition of all
kinds of happiness?
S: ~
BV: Ok.
MN: 8. "And what, bhikkhus, is right view that is noble, taintless,
supramundane, a factor of the path? The wisdom, the faculty of wisdom, the
power of wisdom, the investigation-of-states enlightenment factor, the path
factor of right view in one whose mind is noble,
BV: What does all of that mean? There’s a lot of wisdoms in there.
S: ~
BV: There is the investigation of Dependent Origination. But when you get
down to it, it’s always seeing as impersonal process. The different links of
dependent ~, Dependent Origination arise because there is a cause for them
to arise. Did you ask that cause to arise? Not hardly. As you become,
involved with, thoughts, and start taking thoughts personally, and then
forming opinions, and then, getting into the habit of always having those
opinions when this kind of thought arises, there is heavy duty
identification that these are my opinions, these are my views, this is my
concepts of the way the world really works, and we have to six r those. And
I’m not talking about just while you’re sitting. I’m talking about six ring
a lot while you’re doing other things. Getting caught up in views and
opinions is a source of major suffering. Ok, so, we’re talking about the
supramundane, the taintless. That means (repeats: the wisdom the facility of
wisdom, the power of wisdom, the investigation-of-states enlightenment
factor, the path factor of right view in one whose mind is noble,)
MN: whose mind is taintless, who possesses the noble path and is
developing the noble path: this is right view that is noble, taintless,
supramundane, a factor of the path.
9. "One makes an effort to abandon wrong view and to enter upon right
view: this is one's right effort. Mindfully one abandons wrong view,
BV: Anything that has craving in it.
MN: mindfully one enters upon and abides in right view:
BV: ~
MN: this is one's right mindfulness. Thus these three states run and
circle around right view, that is, right view, right effort, and right
mindfulness.
BV: You don’t have your observation power, to be able to be, you having
that quiet mind and settling down, and, and seeing, then you haven’t got,
mindfulness. Ok, now, we’re talking about, ah, harmonious imaging.
MN: (INTENTION)
10. "Therein, bhikkhus, right view comes first. And how does right view
come first? One understands wrong intention as wrong intention
BV: Holding on to views is an unharmonious image. Holding on to any of
the hindrances, any thoughts, any restlessness, any of that is unharmonious
imaging, because you’re bringing that image in, and you’re attached to it.
You’re taking it personally.
MN: and right intention as right intention: this is one's right view.
11. "And what, bhikkhus, is wrong intention? The intention of sensual
desire, the intention of ill will, and the intention of cruelty: this is
wrong intention.
BV: And imaging is a real interesting, thing. And I, I like imaging as
compared to thought, or intention, because the image, you always have an
image before there’s any action. And when you take that image and you hold
on to it, you have the image of sensual desire: "I want that.", doesn’t
matter whether it’s sexual desire or, ah, ice cream, or ah, sights, or
sounds, or excitement, the want for excitement, go to a baseball game or a
basketball game, or hockey, whatever. But you, the reason that you have that
action is because you’re holding on to that image, that desire for, this to
happen. And, that leads directly to immeasurably amounts of suffering, of
unsatisfactoriness, of pain, of craving, of repeated re, acting, in they way
you’ve always acted.
Ok -
MN: 12. "And what, bhikkhus, is right intention? Right intention, I say,
is twofold: there is right intention that is affected by taints, partaking
of merit, ripening in the acquisitions, and there is right intention that is
noble, taintless, supramundane, a factor of the path.
13. "And what, bhikkhus, is right intention that is affected by taints,
partaking of merit, ripening in the acquisitions? The intention of
renunciation, the intention of non-ill will, and the intention of
non-cruelty: this is right intention that is affected by taints...ripening
in the acquisitions.
14. "And what, bhikkhus, is right intention that is noble, taintless,
supramundane, a factor of the path? The thinking, thought, intention, mental
absorption, mental fixity,
BV: I don’t agree with this.
MN: directing of mind, verbal formation in one whose mind is noble, whose
mind is taintless, who possesses the noble path and is developing the noble
path:
S: ~
BV: Now I don’t agree with most of this: "the thinking, thought,
intention, mental absorption, mental fixity." You’re talking about
one-pointed concentration. Now if you, eh, you have mental images, they can
have words in them, or they can be, ah, a visual image, either one.
S: ~ words are there ~
BV: What is the words in the Pali, for the right intention? Or right ah,
right dh…
BUJ: ~~
BV: Sankappa? (saṅkappa)
BUJ: ~
BV: Ok, so what they’re really saying is that this is vitakka, vicara
(vicāra), sankappa (saṅkappa).
BUJ: ~
BV: The, their… So they’re talking, they’re talking about being, yeah,
they’re talking about being in jhana.
BUJ: ~
BV: Ah uh.
BUJ: ~
BV: AP~, yes.
S: ~
BV: Absorption
S: ~
BV: Yeah, Mental absorption.
BUJ: ~
BV: Yeah, that means being in jhana.
BUJ: ~
BV: But it talking about absorption jhana, that’s the name of that. Ok,
what is mental fixity?
BV: You got me there, I thought that you were going to say ah, ah,
BUJ: ~
S: It’s what?
BUJ: ~
BV: A special type of fixity. (Sighs) I really have problems with this.
BUJ: ~
BV: I have real problems with this.
BUJ: ~
BV: I thought, when you said mental, ah, fixity, that you were going to
say ah "ekaggata" (ekaggatā).
Not there. Ah. Ah I have some real problems with all of that, because it
doesn’t really ring true.
SK and BUJ talking indistinctly.
BV: (Laughs) I think what we want to do is, ah, if they, there’s a
sub-commentary notes, we want to look at those. Quite often what Bhikkhu
Bodhi does is he’ll ~ take something from the commentary, and reword it a
little bit, and then but it in, and, that might be from the commentary.
Anyway, let’s say that what is the right imaging that is noble taintless
supramundane, a factor of the path, we can call that samatha vipassana. And
that means a tranquil kind of insight, into verbal formation. So you’re ~,
very careful with, with your verbal formation, ~ say, and it’s, it’s also,
"whose mind is taintless, who possesses the noble path and is developing the
noble path:"
MN: this is right intention that is noble...a factor of the path.
15. "One makes an effort to abandon wrong intention and to enter upon
right intention: this is one's right effort. Mindfully one abandons wrong
intention, mindfully one enters upon and abides in right intention: this is
one's right mindfulness. Thus these three states run and circle around right
intention, that is, right view, right effort, and right mindfulness.
BV: Now this, this is starting to be real interesting because what he’s
doing is he’s saying that, these three factors are running around every one
of the other ones that come up, and keeping them wholesome, keeping them
pointing mind towards the wholesome.
MN: (SPEECH)
16. "Therein, bhikkhus, right view comes first. And how does right view
come first? One understands wrong speech as wrong speech and right speech as
right speech: this is one's right view.
17. "And what, bhikkhus, is wrong speech? False speech, malicious speech,
harsh speech, and gossip: this is wrong speech.
BV: Now the thing that they don’t tell you in here, is that is the kind
of verbalization in you own mind, that you have to, be careful of too, how
you come down on yourself, how you criticize yourself, how you tell yourself
that you don’t understand, that you don’t want to do, that you all of the,
the internal dialogue, is a part of the harmonious communication. Now with
the wrong harmonious communication, false speech, ah, malicious speech,
harsh speech, and gossip, these four kinds of speech, you can direct towards
yourself. You can make up stories, about what, what you would like to see
happen, that basically turns into gossip. You can turn yourself against
yourself, and sabotage yourself. You can have the perspective of just flat
out lying to yourself, and trying to make up excuses for things because of
this or because of that. Making excuses is a really, unwholesome kind of
mind, and you have to be careful of that.
MN: 18. "And what, bhikkhus, is right speech? Right speech, I say, is
twofold: there is right speech that is affected by taints, partaking of
merit, ripening in the acquisitions; and there is [74] right speech that is
noble, taintless, supramundane, a factor of the path.
19. "And what, bhikkhus, is right speech that is affected by taints,
partaking of merit, ripening in the acquisitions? Abstinence from false
speech, abstinence from malicious speech, abstinence from harsh speech,
abstinence from gossip: this is right speech that is affected by
taints...ripening in the acquisitions.
BV: Now, you, it says: "that is affected by the taints" and I’d like to
change that to "maybe" affected by the taints. Why would those kind of
speech still be affected by the taints? Because you believe that these are
yours. See it always, it always comes down to, impersonal or personal.
Personal means ownership. Impersonal means not own, ownership.
MN: 20. "And what, bhikkhus, is right speech that is noble, taintless,
supramundane, a factor of the path? The desisting from the four kinds of
verbal misconduct, the abstaining, refraining, abstinence from them in one
whose mind is noble, whose mind is taintless, who possesses the noble path
and is developing the noble path: this is right speech that is noble...a
factor of the path.
BV: Now, the ultimate is, when you’re sitting in meditation, and you’re
observing and, relaxing, and you don’t have any verbal communication, with
yourself. That’s noble silence. That is a desirable state to get into, and,
as you are able to observe whatever arises, and you six r with it, relax
into it, your mind becomes more and more pure, more and more, at ease, more
and more clear, and this is how your personality development really starts
to take off.
MN: 21. "One makes an effort to abandon wrong speech and to enter upon
right speech: this is one's right effort. Mindfully one abandons wrong
speech, mindfully one enters upon and abides in right speech: this is one's
right mindfulness.
BV: Now this, this gives the impression that your mindfulness is the
thing that makes the decision. The decision is not part of mindfulness.
Mindfulness is just the observation of the decision that is made. Got it?
Yes?
S: ~
BV: Well, now it’s not volitional mindful. Don’t, don’t be doing that.
You’re, you’re trying to make mindfulness something other than it is.
Mindfulness is the observation power. That’s all it is. It observes. That
that part of the mind that observes. There is a decision, before that.
S: Remember. ~~
BV: It’s remembering to observe.
S: (continues) ~~
BV: Yes. But the thing is, there is the decision that happens before, and
the mindfulness is the observing power, for, watching, that decision. What
ever that decision happens.
S: ~
BV: It
S: ~
BV: Yes. Of course.
S:~
BV: And that’s that’s part of the effort.
S: ~
BV: Ah that...
S: ~
BV: Well, that…
S: ~
BV: But it it is, there is volition in it because, you have the
harmonious practice in the four kinds, seeing the unwholesome, letting go of
the unwholesome and relaxing, bringing up the wholesome, smiling, and
keeping the wholesome going. But the mindfulness is the part of the mind
that’s observing that. Where the decision comes in, is with the harmonious
practice. Ok. Got it? (Laughs)
MN: Thus these three states run and circle around right speech, that is,
right view,
BV: It’s impersonal.
MN: right effort,
BV: Letting go of the unwholesome, relaxing, bringing up the wholesome,
keeping the wholesome going.
MN: and right mindfulness.
BV: Observing how that is done.
MN: (ACTION)
22. "Therein, bhikkhus, right view comes first.
BV: Isn’t that interesting how it always comes first? I was at a big
retreat in, in Australia, there must have been forty, forty five people, and
the last day somebody, ah, the teacher said: "Ok, write down your
questions." And, one of the first questions was: "Why, is, right
understanding, or right view, always first?" And the answer came back:
"Because that’s the way the Buddha said it." (Laughter) But here, you’re
seeing that it always comes first with every one of the factors, and you
have, not only the one factor, you have three factors that surround all the
other factors. But the right view or right understanding is always seeing it
as impersonal. When you see it as impersonal, then, there’s no tension;
there’s no tightness; there’s no craving; there’s no clinging; there’s no
habitual tendency; there’s no birth; there’s no death; there’s only this
right here in the present moment.
(Repeats: "Therein, bhikkhus, right view comes first.)
MN: And how does right view come first? One understands wrong action as
wrong action and right action as right action:
BV: What they call right action.
S: ~
BV: Well, it can be. It can be a lot of things. We’ll get into it in a
moment.
MN: this is one's right view.
23. "And what, bhikkhus, is wrong action? Killing living beings, taking
what is not given, and misconduct in sensual pleasures: this is wrong
action.
24. "And what, bhikkhus, is right action?
BV: One of the interesting things that I find with most presentations of
the eight fold path, is, that the definitions they give are always general
term and don’t have anything directly to do with your practice. But this
was, so important, that the Buddha decided that that’s what we’re going to
give on the first Dhamma talk. Now, these monks were virtuous men. They had
some wrong views, but they were very virtuous. They wouldn’t kill anything;
they wouldn’t steal anything; they were celibate. Why would the Buddha talk
about killing, and stealing, and having wrong sexual act activity to these
monks? It doesn’t make sense. Now, when I was in Mahasi enter, and in even
in this book, Bhikkhu Bodhi follows follows suit with this, He says: "The
right speech, right action, and right livelihood are only part of morality,
And, when you’re sitting in meditation, you’re not doing any, you’re not
breaking any of those, so, we won’t even talk about it." And then they don’t
talk about right concentration at the end, so instead of an eight fold path,
they’re teaching you four fold path. But, for a long time, I’ve been looking
for how the eight fold path directly affects your meditation, how it is
helpful to see the eight fold path with the practice that you’re doing, and
keeping that path straight. So these kind of definitions, I have some real
problems with, because they don’t have anything to do about your, your
meditation and what you see while you’re in the meditation. That’s why I
changed a lot of these words, to harmonious communication instead of speech,
and harmonious movement instead of right action, because it’s being able to
see how mind’s movement goes to an unwholesome state, goes to a wholesome
state, being able to see that movement of mind’s attention, and if you’re
practicing harmonious movement, then you're always nudging mind so that it
goes towards that wholesome. Ok? And (Repeats - "And what, bhikkhus, is
right action?)
MN: Right action, I say, is twofold: there is right action that is
affected by taints, partaking of merit, ripening in the acquisitions; and
there is right action that is noble, taintless, supramundane, a factor of
the path.
25. "And what, bhikkhus, is right action that is affected by taints,
partaking of merit, ripening in the acquisitions? Abstinence from killing
living beings,
BV: That doesn’t make sense in itself. How can you get merit by
abstaining from killing? You’re not doing the action, to, cause the pain.
And the definition of karma is: "Action". (Laughs) So the absence of
killing, I ‘m not going to kill this dog. So I just made good merit because
I’m not going to kill the dog? I’m not holding any ill will in my mind. I
suppose that way I could be making merit. But we’re talking about action
here. We’re talking about actual body movement. Ah, it’s just more questions
that I have with this stuff
MN: abstinence from taking what is not given,
BV: Ok, I’m not going to steal from you. So I get good merit for it?
MN: abstinence from misconduct in sensual pleasures: this is right action
that is affected by taints...ripening in the acquisitions.
26. "And what, bhikkhus, is right action that is noble, taintless,
supramundane, a factor of the path? The desisting from the three kinds of
bodily misconduct, the abstaining, refraining, abstinence from them in one
whose mind is noble, whose mind is taintless, who possesses the noble path
and is developing the noble path: this is right action that is noble...a
factor of the path.
BV: The harmonious movement has to do with, your mindfulness, and
watching how mind’s attention moves. You have to learn how to let go of your
concepts, of your opinions, of your ideas; you have to learn how to let that
movement be and relax into it.
MN: 27. "One makes an effort to abandon wrong action and to enter upon
right action: this is one's right effort. Mindfully one abandons wrong
action, mindfully one enters upon and dwells in right action: this is one's
right mindfulness. Thus these three states run and circle around right
action, that is, right view, right effort, and right mindfulness.
BV: Now we get to livelihood. This is great. The definition doesn’t have
one thing in the world to do with your meditation. But it was important
enough that the Buddha mentioned it on the first, first sermon, and he was
dealing with people that were meditators. How does that get moved into, your
practice. So I call it harmonious lifestyle?
MN: (LIVELIHOOD)
28. "Therein, bhikkhus, right view comes first. And how does right view
come first? One understands wrong livelihood as wrong livelihood and right
livelihood as right livelihood: this is one's right view.
29. "And what, bhikkhus, is wrong livelihood? Scheming, talking, hinting,
belittling, pursuing gain with gain: this is wrong livelihood.
BV: What does that have to do with your practice? Ok-
MN: 30. "And what, bhikkhus, is right livelihood? Right livelihood, I
say, is twofold: there is right livelihood that is affected by taints,
partaking of merit, ripening in the acquisitions; and there is right
livelihood that is noble, taintless, supramundane, a factor of the path.
31. "And what, bhikkhus, is right livelihood that is affected by taints,
partaking of merit, ripening in the acquisitions? Here, bhikkhus, a noble
disciple abandons wrong livelihood and gains his living by right livelihood:
BV: Gains his living.
MN: this is right livelihood that is affected by taints...ripening in the
acquisitions.
BV: In other places it says you don’t kill living beings; you don’t sell
being;, you don’t have slaves; you don’t, ah have anything to do with
poisons; you don’t have anything to do with firearms. That is right life,
livelihood, or ah, that is if you do have something to do with that, wrong
livelihood. But the life style is how you see the movement of mind’s
attention. The things that you put in front of yourself. You put in a scary
movie; you don’t sleep at night. You put in a movie that, really, inspires
you to have a peaceful calm mind, a movie like a Dhamma talk, or something
like that. The kind of material that you read. All of these things lead to a
harmonious lifestyle, because they always help you to have an uplifted mind.
Ok-
MN: 32. "And what, bhikkhus, is right livelihood that is noble,
taintless, supramundane, a factor of the path? The desisting from wrong
livelihood, the abstaining, refraining, abstinence from it in one whose mind
is noble, whose mind is taintless, who possesses the noble path and is
developing the noble path: this is right livelihood that is noble...a factor
of the path.
BV: So, that actually is not much help at all. That whole definition is
like enhaa, what does that mean?
MN: 33. "One makes an effort to abandon wrong livelihood and to enter
upon right livelihood: this is one's right effort. Mindfully one abandons
wrong livelihood, mindfully one enters upon and dwells in right livelihood:
this is one's right mindfulness. Thus these three states run and circle
around right livelihood, that is, right view, right effort, and right
mindfulness.
BV: So the whole thing is, is coming right down to being able to see
craving when it arises, and the faster, more clearly you can observe that
and let it go, the more harmonious your whole practice becomes, the more at
ease everything becomes.
MN: (THE GREAT FORTY)
34. "Therein, bhikkhus, right view comes first. And how does right view
come first? In one of right view, right intention comes into being; in one
of right intention, right speech comes into being; in one of right speech,
right action comes into being; in one of right action, right livelihood
comes into being; in one of right livelihood, right effort comes into being;
in one of right effort, right mindfulness comes into being; in one of right
mindfulness, right concentration comes into being; in one of right
concentration, right knowledge comes into being; in one of right knowledge,
right deliverance comes into being. Thus, bhikkhus, the path of the disciple
in higher training possesses eight factors, the arahant possesses ten
factors.
35. "Therein, bhikkhus, right view comes first. And how does right view
come first? In one of right view, wrong view is abolished, and the many evil
unwholesome states that originate with wrong view as condition are also
abolished, and the many wholesome states that originate with right view as
condition come to fulfilment by development.
"In one of right intention, wrong intention is abolished, and the many
evil unwholesome states that originate with wrong intention as condition are
also abolished, and the many wholesome states that originate with right
intention as condition come to fulfillment by development.
"In one of right speech, wrong speech is abolished. In one of right
action, wrong action is abolished. In one of right livelihood, wrong
livelihood is abolished. In one of right effort, wrong effort is abolished.
In one of right mindfulness, wrong mindfulness is abolished. In one of right
concentration, wrong concentration is abolished. In one of right knowledge,
wrong knowledge is abolished. In one of right deliverance, wrong deliverance
is abolished, and the many evil unwholesome states that originate with wrong
deliverance as condition are also abolished, and the many wholesome states
that originate with right deliverance as condition come to fulfillment by
development.
36. "Thus, bhikkhus, there are twenty factors on the side of the
wholesome, and twenty factors on the side of the unwholesome. This Dhamma
discourse on the Great Forty has been set rolling and cannot be stopped by
any recluse or brahmin or god or Mara or Brahma or anyone in the world.
37. "Bhikkhus, if any recluse or brahmin thinks that this Dhamma
discourse on the Great Forty should be censured and rejected, then there are
ten legitimate deductions from his assertions that would provide grounds for
censuring him here and now. If that worthy one censures right view, then he
would honour and praise those recluses and brahmins who are of wrong view.
If that worthy one censures right intention, then he would honour and praise
those recluses and brahmins who are of wrong intention. If that worthy one
censures right speech...right action...right livelihood...right
effort...right mindfulness...right concentration...right knowledge...right
deliverance, then he would honour and praise those recluses and brahmins who
are of wrong deliverance. If any recluse or brahmin thinks that this Dhamma
discourse on the Great Forty should be censured and rejected, then these are
ten legitimate deductions from his assertions that would provide grounds for
censuring him here and now.
38. "Bhikkhus, even those teachers from Okkala, Vassa and Bhañña, who
held the doctrine of non-causality, the doctrine of non-doing, and the
doctrine of nihilism, would not think that this Dhamma discourse on the
Great Forty should be censured and rejected. Why is that? For fear of blame,
attack, and confutation."
That is what the Blessed One said. The bhikkhus were satisfied and
delighted in the Blessed One's words.
BV: So the eight fold path, each one of the factors of the eight fold
path has, other factors supporting it, and helping it, and I really like the
fact that they talk about the eight fold path, and always talk about the
harmonious perspective first, because if you don’t have that perspective,
and it’s the wrong perspective, it’s really going to screw up the rest of
the eight fold path. If you start taking any of this stuff personally, if
you start taking any of your views, any of your concepts, any of your
opinions personally, that that’s going to stop your, progress in the
meditation. And it’s, your choice. Ok? Anybody have any questions?
BUJ: ~
BV: Ah, when, when he gave the, the white cloth to the, the younger, ah,
monk.
BUJ: ~
BV: Yeah. That was for him personally. Anybody else that would try to do
that, it wouldn’t mean anything to them. So that would, that would be that
kind of an instance
BUJ: ~
BV: Yeah. He and his older brother ordained at the same time. His older
brother became an arahat very quickly, and he decided he was going to teach,
his younger brother, the Dhamma, the discourses, and, the younger brother
had no memory. He would work and he would get one line, and he’d finally get
it right, and then they would go to the next line and it would drive that
line out of his head. So he couldn’t, he, he just couldn’t do it, and after
ah, ah few months of this…
BUJ: ~
BV: Yeah. The older brother said: "You might as well disrobe. You might
as well, ah, get out of the order. You, you don’t have a memory. You can’t,
you can’t teach." So, he went off by himself and he started crying. And the
Buddha saw him. He said: "What’s the matter, monk?" And he said, he told him
what his older brother had said and that he had to disrobe, and the Buddha
gave him a white white piece of cloth, and he said: "I want you to rub this
piece of cloth, and say" something, I can’t, purity or something like that.
BUJ: ~
BV: Yeah, pure cloth, pure cloth, pure cloth. And over a period of time
of his doing that, it got to be dirty. And as soon as he saw that, he saw
impermanence and ah, the impersonal nature of everything, and became an
arahat. Now the reason that that happened was for for the five hundred
lifetimes before he was in that lifetime, he was a goldsmith, and he was
working with the purest kind of gold, all the time, and the slightest little
defect would bother him. So when he gave him this white piece of cloth and
he started rubbing it and saw that defect that was was coming off his body,
he got repulsed by it, and it balanced his mind. He became an arahat. Now
what happened was that particular day, all of the monks in the monastery
were invited to somebody’s house. They, they wanted all arahats, I think, at
the house, and, they arrive at the house and the Buddha looks around and
says: "Well, where is this monk? "He’s not an arahat." He said: "No, no, you
have to go get him." So they send somebody back to the monastery to get him,
and he had developed the power of having one body, he could have many, and
he turned into a thousand monks and he was sweeping all the different places
out in the monastery, and cleaning up and doing all of that, the guy that
was coming to get him went back and he said: "The monastery is full. There’s
a thousand monks there. How do I know which one I supposed to talk to?" And
the Buddha said: "Well, just grab a hold of one of then, and he’ll be the
right one." And he comes back, and he grabs a hold of one of the monks and
all the other monks disappeared, and it was the right one, and then he
invited him to come to dinner, as an arahat. That was his first meal, so
that was real special merit for, whoever gave that ~. But every since she’s
heard that story, (Laughter) she wants to have a thousand bodies. I keep on
saying things like: "But you can’t even take care of one." (Laughs) Ok, any
questions? Let’s share some merit then.
May suffering ones, be suffering
free
And the fear struck, fearless be
May the grieving shed all grief
And may all beings find relief.
May all beings share this merit that
we have thus acquired
For the acquisition of all kinds of happiness.
May beings inhabiting space and
earth
Devas and nagas of mighty power
Share this merit of ours.
May they long protect the Lord Buddha's
dispensation.
Sadhu . . . Sadhu . . . Sadhu .
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Sutta text translation: (C) Bhikkhu Bodhi 1995, 2001.
Reprinted from
The Middle Length Discourses of the Buddha: A Translation of the Majjhima
Nikaya with permission of Wisdom Publications, 199 Elm Street, Somerville,
MA 02144 U.S.A, www.wisdompubs.org
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